How to back up and recover Red Hat OpenShift Container Storage

By Annette Clewett and Luis Rico

The snapshot capability in Kubernetes is in tech preview at present and, as such, backup/recovery solution providers have not yet developed an end-to-end Kubernetes volume backup solution. Fortunately, GlusterFS, an underlying technology behind Red Hat OpenShift Container Storage (RHOCS), does have a mature snapshot capability. When combined with enterprise-grade backup and recovery software, a robust solution can be provided.

This blog post details how backup and restore can be done when using RHOCS via GlusterFS. As of the Red Hat OpenShift Container Platform (OCP) 3.11 release, there are a limited number of storage technologies (EBS, Google Cloud E pDisk, and hostPath) that support creating and restoring application data snapshots via Kubernetes snapshots. This Kubernetes snapshot feature is in tech preview, and the implementation is expected to change in concert with upcoming Container Storage Interface (CSI) changes. CSI, a universal storage interface (effectively an API) between container orchestrators and storage providers, is ultimately where backup and restore for OCS will be integrated in the future using volume snapshots capability.

Traditionally, backup and restore operations involve two different layers. One is the application layer. For example, databases like PostgreSQL have their own procedures to do an application consistent backup. The other is the storage layer. Most storage platforms provide a way for backup software like Commvault or Veritas NetBackup to integrate, obtain storage level snapshots, and perform backups and restores accordingly. An application layer backup is driven by application developers and is application specific. This study will focus on traditional storage layer backup and restore using Commvault Complete™ Backup and Recovery Software for this purpose. Other backup software tools can be used in a similar manner if they supply the same capabilities as used with Commvault.

RHOCS can be deployed in either converged mode or independent mode, and both are supported by the process described in this article. Converged mode, formerly known as Container Native Storage (CNS), means that Red Hat Gluster Storage is deployed in containers and uses the OCP host storage and networking. Independent mode, formerly known as Container Ready Storage (CRS), is deployed as a stand-alone Red Hat Gluster Storage cluster that provides persistent storage to OCP containers. Both modes of RHOCS deployment use heketi in a container on OCP for provisioning and managing GlusterFS volumes.

Storage-level backup and restore for RHOCS

If a backup is performed at the Persistent Volume (PV) level, then it will not capture the OCP Persistent Volume Claim (PVC) information. OCP PVC to PV mapping is required to identify which backups belong to which application. This leaves a gap: Which GlusterFS PV goes with which OCP PVC?

In a traditional environment, this is solved by naming physical volumes such that the administrator has a way of identifying which volumes belong to which application. This naming method can now be used in OCP (as of OCP 3.9) by using custom volume naming in the StorageClass resource. Before OCP 3.9, the names of the dynamically provisioned GlusterFS volumes were auto-generated with random vol_UUID naming. Now, by adding a custom volume name prefix in the StorageClass, the GlusterFS volume name will include the OCP namespace or project as well as the PVC name, thereby making it possible to map the volume to a particular workload.

OCS custom volume naming

Custom volume naming requires a change to the StorageClass definition. Any new RHOCS persistent volumes claimed using this StorageClass will be created with a custom volume name. The custom volume name will have prefix, project or namespace, PVC name and UUID (<myPrefix>_<namespace>_<claimname>_UUID).

The following glusterfs-storage StorageClass has custom volume naming enabled by adding the volumenameprefix parameter.

# oc get sc glusterfs-storage -o yaml
apiVersion: storage.k8s.io/v1
kind: StorageClass
metadata:
  name: glusterfs-storage
parameters:
  resturl: http://heketi-storage-app-storage.apps.ocpgluster.com
  restuser: admin
  secretName: heketi-storage-admin-secret
  secretNamespace: app-storage
  volumenameprefix: gf 
provisioner: kubernetes.io/glusterfs
reclaimPolicy: Delete

❶ Custom volume name support: <volumenameprefixstring>_<namespace>_<claimname>_UUID

As an example, using this StorageClass for a namespace of mysql1 and PVC name of mysql the volume name would be gf_mysql1_mysql_043e08fc-f728-11e8-8cfd-028a65460540 (the UUID portion of the name will be unique for each volume name).

Note: If custom volume naming cannot be used, then it is important to collect information about all workloads using PVCs, their OCP PV associated, and the GlusterFS volume name (contained in Path variable in description of OCP PV).

RHOCS backup process

The goal of this blog post is to provide a generic method to back up and restore OCS persistent volumes used with OCP workloads. The example scripts and .ini files have no specific dependency on a particular backup and restore product. As such, they can be used with a product such as Commvault, where the scripts can be embedded in the backup configuration. Or, they can be used standalone, assuming that basic backup/recovery of the mounted gluster snapshots will be done via standard RHEL commands.

Note: The methods described here apply only for gluster-file volumes and currently will not work for gluster-block volumes.

For this approach, a “bastion host” is needed for executing the scripts, mounting GlusterFS snapshot volumes, and providing a place to install the agent if using backup and restore software. The bastion host should be a standalone RHEL7 machine separate from the OCP nodes and storage nodes in your deployment.

Requirements for the bastion host

The bastion host must have network connectivity to both the backup and restore server (if used), as well as the OCP nodes with the gluster pods (RHOCS converged mode) or the storage nodes (RHOCS independent mode). The following must be installed or downloaded to the bastion host:

  • backup and restore agent, if used
  • heketi-client package
  • glusterfs-fuse client package
  • atomic-openshift-clients package
  • rhocs-backup scripts and .ini files

RHOCS backup scripts

The github repository rhocs-backup contains unsupported example code that can be used with backup and restore software products. The two scripts, rhocs-pre-backup.sh and rhocs-post-backup.sh, have been tested with Commvault Complete™ Backup and Recovery Software. The rhocs-pre-backup.sh script will do the following:

  • Find all gluster-file volumes using heketi-client
  • Create a gluster snapshot for each volume
  • Mount the the snapshot volumes on the bastion host that has the backup agent installed
  • Protect the heketi configuration database by creating a json file for the database in the backup directory where all gluster snapshots are going to be mounted

Once the mounted snapshot volumes have been backed up, the rhocs-post-backup.sh script will do the following:

  • Unmount the snapshot volumes
  • Delete the gluster snapshot volumes

The two .ini files, independent_vars.ini and converged_vars.ini, are used to specify parameters specific to your RHOCS mode of deployment. Following are example parameters for converged_var.ini.

## Environment variables for RHOCS Backup:
## Deployment mode for RHOCS cluster: converged (CNS) or independent (CRS)
export RHOCSMODE="converged"

## Authentication variables for accessing OpenShift cluster or
## Gluster nodes depending on deployment mode
export OCADDRESS="https://master.refarch311.ocpgluster.com:443"
export OCUSER="openshift"
export OCPASS="redhat"
export OCPROJECT="app-storage" ## OpenShift project where gluster cluster lives

## Any of the Gluster servers from RHOCS converged cluster
## used for mounting gluster snapshots
export GLUSTERSERVER=172.16.31.173

## Directory for temporary files to put the list of
## Gluster volumes /snaps to backup
export VOLDIR=/root
export SNAPDIR=/root

## Destination directory for mounting snapshots of Gluster volumes:
export PARENTDIR=/mnt/source

## Heketi Route and Credentials
export USERHEKETI=admin ## User with admin permissions to dialog with Heketi
export SECRETHEKETI="xzAqO62qTPlacNjk3oIX53n2+Z0Z6R1Gfr0wC+z+sGk=" ## Heketi user key
export HEKETI_CLI_SERVER=http://heketi-storage-app-storage.apps.refarch311.ocpgluster.com ##
Route where Heketi pod is listening

## Provides Logging of this script in the dir specified below:
export LOGDIR="/root"

The pre-backup script, when executed, uses the heketi-client for the list of current gluster-file volumes. Because of this, for the script to work properly the heketi container must be online and reachable from bastion host. Additionally, for the scripts to work properly, all GlusterFS nodes or peers of RHOCS cluster must be online, as GlusterFS snapshot operation requires all bricks of a GlusterFS volume be available.

Manual execution of pre- and post-backup scripts

This section assumes that the bastion host has been created and has the necessary packages, scripts, and .ini files are installed on this machine. Currently, the pre- and post-backup scripts run as the root user. Because of this, backing up volumes for RHOCS independent mode will require that the bastion host can SSH as the root user with passwordless access to one of the GlusterFS storage nodes. This access should be verified before attempting to run the following scripts.

The scripts can be manually executed in the following manner for RHOCS converged mode:

sudo ./rhocs-pre-backup.sh /<path_to_file>/converged_vars.ini

Followed by this script to unmount the snapshot volumes and to remove the snapshot volumes from the RHOCS Heketi database and GlusterFS converged cluster:

sudo ./rhocs-post-backup.sh /<path_to_file>/converged_vars.ini

A variation of these scripts for RHOCS independent mode can be manually executed in the following manner:

sudo ./rhocs-pre-backup.sh /<path_to_file>/independent_vars.ini

Followed by this script to unmount the snapshot volumes and to remove the snapshot volumes from the RHOCS Heketi database and GlusterFS independent cluster:

sudo ./rhocs-post-backup.sh /<path_to_file>/independent_vars.ini

For each execution of the pre- or post-backup script a log file will be generated and placed in the directory specified in the .ini file (default is /root).

Note: Pre-backup scripts can be modified as needed for specific scenarios to achieve application-level consistency, like quiescing a database before taking a backup. Also, if special features are used with RHOCS, like SSL encryption or geo-replication, scripts will have to be customized and adjusted to be compatible with those features.

Commvault backup process

Note that this blog post does not cover the tasks to install and configure Commvault to back up and restore data. In addition to having the Commvault Console and Agent in working order, this section also assumes that the bastion host has been created and has the necessary packages, scripts, and .ini files installed.

The use of these scripts to back up OCP PVs is compatible with any backup frequency or retention configured in the Commvault backup policy. But, as we are mounting gluster snapshots in newly created folders with date and time information, the backup application will always consider contents as new, so even if backup policy is incremental, it will effectively do a full backup. Also, the backup content will consist of dozens or even hundreds of very small filesystems (1-10 GB), that could run faster under a “always do full backup” strategy.

Detailed process for backup using Commvault

Once the scripts and .ini files are on the bastion host and a Commvault Agent is installed, a backup can be done using the Commvault Commcell Console or the Commvault Admin Console. The following views show how to do the backup using the Commcell Console and validate the backup using the Admin Console.

A Subclient must be created before a backup can be done and a unique name must be specified.

When creating a Subclient, you must input where on the bastion host you want the backup to be done from on the bastion host with Commvault Agent (e.g., /mnt/source).

Choose what schedule you want the backup done on (or Do Not Schedule; start backup manually using Console instead).

And last or the Subclient configuration, add the path to the pre- and post-backup scripts, as well as the path to the appropriate .ini file, converged_vars.ini or independent_vars.ini. Once this is done and the subclient has been saved, you are ready to take a backup of the gluster-file snapshot volumes.

The backup can then be done by selecting the desired subclient and issuing an immediate backup or letting the selected schedule do the backups when configured (e.g., daily).

For an immediate backup, you can choose full or incremental. As already stated, a full backup will be done every time, because the pre-backup script always creates a new directory to mount the gluster-file snapshot volume.

You can track backup progress using the Job Controller tab.

Once the backup is complete, in the Job Controller tab of the Commvault Commcell Console, verification can be done by logging into the Commvault Admin Console, selecting the correct subclient (ocsbackups), and viewing the backup content for the GlusterFS volumes and the heketi database.

RHOCS restore and recovery process

Now that there are backups for RHOCS snapshot volumes, it is very important to have a process for restoring the snapshot from any particular date and time. Once data is restored, it can be copied back into the OCP PV for a target workload in a way that avoids conflicts (e.g., copying files into running workload at same time updates are attempting to be made to same files). 

To do this, we will use CLI command “oc rsync” and an OCP “sleeper” deployment. You can use the command “oc rsync” to copy local files to or from a remote directory in a container. The basic syntax is “oc rsync <source> <destination>”. The source can be a local directory on the bastion host or it can be a directory in a running container, and similar is true for the destination.

In the case where the data in a PV must be completely replaced, it is useful to use a “sleeper” deployment as a place to restore the data so that the workload can essentially be turned off while the data is being restored to its volume, thereby avoiding any conflicts. The sleeper deploymentconfig will create a CentOS container and mount the workload PVC at a configured mount point in the CentOS container. This allows the backup gluster snapshot for the PV to then be copied from the directory where the snapshot was restored into the sleeper container (e.g., oc rsync <path to directory with restored data>/ sleeper-1-cxncv:/mnt –delete=true).

Simple restore or file-level recovery

This section details how to restore files or folders from a backup of a particular volume to a local working directory on the bastion host.

  1. Identify the desired backup of the gluster snapshot volume by date and time and volume name (see the following in Commvault subclient Restore view). Find the folder or files you want to restore, and check the appropriate boxes.

2. Restore the files to the same directory where the backup was taken or to any other directory on the bastion host.

3. Verify that the files are in the specified directory for the Commvault Restore. They can now be copied into the
destination pod using “oc rsync” or the method described in the next section using a “sleeper” deployment.

$ pwd
/home/ec2-user/annette
$ ls -ltr test*
-rw-r-----. 1 1000470000 2002  8590 Dec 3 17:19 test.frm
-rw-r-----. 1 1000470000 2002 98304 Dec  3 17:19 test.ibd

Complete restore and recovery

This section details how to restore an entire volume. The process tested here will work for operational recovery (volumes with corrupted data), instances where volumes were inadvertently deleted, or to recover from infrastructure failures. The following example is for a MySQL database deployed in OCP.

  1. Identify the desired backup by date, time, and volume name (see the backup directory that is checked in Commvault Subclient Restore view).

2. Restore the backup to original directory where backup was taken of mounted gluster snapshot volume or any other directory on the bastion host.

# ls

/mnt/source/backup-20181203-1732/ocscon_mysql3_mysql_f3610b3f-f122-11e8-b862-
028a65460540-snap-20181203-1732
auto.cnf    ca.pem     client-key.pem  ibdata1  ib_logfile1  mysql   
      mysql_upgrade_info  private_key.pem sampledb      server-key.pem
ca-key.pem  client-cert.pem  ib_buffer_pool ib_logfile0  ibtmp1 
mysql-1-gs92m.pid  performance_schema public_key.pem   server-cert.pem sys

3. Change to the correct namespace or project (oc project msyql3).

4. Scale the mysql deploymentconfig to zero to temporarily stop the database service by deleting the mysql pod (oc scale –replicas=0 dc mysql).

5. Create a sleeper deployment/pod (oc create -f sleeper-dc.yml). The YAML file to create the “sleeper deployment/pod” can be found in the next section.

6. Copy the backup to the PVC mounted in sleeper pod (oc rsync <path to directory with restored data>/ sleeper-1-cxncv:/mnt –delete=true).

# oc rsync
/mnt/source//backup-20181203-1732/ocscon_mysql3_mysql_f3610b3f-f122-11e8-b862-
028a65460540-snap-20181203-1732/ sleeper-1-f9lgh:/mnt --delete=true

Note: Disregard this message: WARNING: cannot use rsync: rsync not available in container.

7. Delete sleeper deploymentconfig (oc delete dc/sleeper)

8. Scale up the mysql deploymentconfig to recreate the mysql pod and start the service again. This will mount the mysql volume with the restored data (oc scale –replicas=1 dc mysql).

9. Log in to the mysql pod and confirm the correct operation of the database with the restored data.

Creating the Sleeper DeploymentConfig

Following is the YAML file to create the sleeper deployment (oc create -f dc-sleeper.yaml). This deployment must be created in same namespace or project as the workload you are trying to restore data to (e.g., the mysql deployment).

Note: The only modification needed for this YAML file it to specify the correct <pvc_name> below (e.g., mysql).

$ cat dc-sleeper.yaml
---
apiVersion: apps.openshift.io/v1
kind: DeploymentConfig
metadata:
  annotations:
    template.alpha.openshift.io/wait-for-ready: "true"
  name: sleeper
spec:
  replicas: 1
  revisionHistoryLimit: 10
  selector:
    name: sleeper
  strategy:
    activeDeadlineSeconds: 21600
    recreateParams:
      timeoutSeconds: 600
    resources: {}
    type: Recreate
  template:
    metadata:
      labels:
       name: sleeper
spec:
     containers:
       - image: centos:7
          imagePullPolicy: IfNotPresent
          name: sleeper
          command: ["/bin/bash", "-c"]
          args: ["sleep infinity"]
          volumeMounts:
            - mountPath: /mnt
              name: data
      dnsPolicy: ClusterFirst
      restartPolicy: Always
      schedulerName: default-scheduler
      securityContext: {}
      terminationGracePeriodSeconds: 5
      volumes:
        - name: data
          persistentVolumeClaim:
            claimName: <pvc_name>
  test: false
  triggers:
    - type: ConfigChange

SQL Server database point-in-time recovery example

To make sure there are no updates during the gluster-file snapshot, the following must be done for a mysql volume so that the backup is consistent.

  1. Log in to the mysql pod.
  2. Log in to mysql (mysql -u root).
  3. mysql>USE SAMPLEDB;
  4. mysql> FLUSH TABLES WITH READ LOCK;
  5. Take a gluster snapshot of the mysql volume by executing the rhocs-pre-backup.sh script manually for the correct RHOCS mode.
  6. mysql> UNLOCK TABLES;
  7. Remove the pre- and post-backup scripts in the Advanced tab for the Commvault subclient.
  8. Take a backup of the snapshot volume.
  9. Execute the rhocs-post-backup.sh script manually for the correct RHOCS mode (unmount and delete the gluster snapshot volumes).
  10. Continue with step 2 in the the “Complete restore and recovery” section.

Backup scripts on Github

Scripts and .ini files can be found here. You are more than welcome to participate in this effort and improve the scripts and process.

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KubeCon Seattle, here we come!

Our top 3 storage-for-containers things to look forward to at KubeCon

By Steve Bohac, OpenShift Storage Product Marketing

Season greetings!

As always, much going on with Red Hat OpenShift Container Storage!

Of course, Kubernetes 1.13 was released this week, Container Journal recently published an article I authored, and KubeCon Seattle is coming up next week… By the way, did you see the latest Forrester Wave Enterprise Container Platform Software Suites where Red Hat OpenShift was named a Leader? Good stuff!

Red Hat OpenShift Container Storage helps organizations standardize storage across multiple environments and easily integrates with Red Hat OpenShift to deliver a persistent storage layer for containerized applications that require long-term, stateful storage. Enterprises can benefit from a simple, integrated solution including the container platform, registry, application development environment, and storageall in one, supported by a single vendor.

December is always a busy month with industry conferences (not to mention holiday planning!), so as I finalized my own KubeCon plans, I wanted to pause and take a quick breath and outline my top 3 things I’m looking forward to at KubeCon Seattle 2018 next week:

  1. Assorted Kubernetes announcements (whatever they are!). Yes, who knows what kind of interesting things will be announced next week… but they’ll likely be exciting! The Kubernetes ecosystem has gotten so large now, there is always a plethora of interesting products and technologies announced at KubeCon. It’s always interesting to see how these new announcements dictate where things are going with Kubernetes and cloud native technologies in general. (By the way, for a great overview of the “third era” of Kubernetes, check out PodCTL #54 with our own Brian Gracely and Tyler Britten.)
  2. For the first time ever, there will be a Cloud Native Storage Day as one of the co-located events at KubeCon. Like the other co-located events, it takes place next Monday before the KubeCon show officially kicks off. The day’s agenda includes customers and industry leaders like Red Hat (I’ll be there with a few colleagues presenting) discussing current implementations and future directions of container storage. This should be very educational and interactive for everyone! And…. the sessions will be recorded (look back here for a post-KubeCon blog after the show for links to the recordings!).
  3. Catching up on the status of the Rook project. What is Rook? Rook is a persistent storage orchestrator that is designed to run as a native Kubernetes service. Consider it the glue between storage and the containerthe thing that makes automation work. This is an interesting development around storage for containers, and I’m looking forward to meeting up with colleagues and “fellow travelers” to understand more.

Anyway, it should be a good one at KubeCon next week (did I mention it is sold out!?). In between sessions, make sure to visit us in Booth D1 in the Expo Hall for product demonstrations, to speak with Red Hat OpenShift Container Storage experts and other community leaders about upstream projects, and to snag some of our giveaways (while supplies last!).

We hope to see you there! If we don’t catch you in person, we’ll be tweeting (and re-tweeting) all week! If you don’t already, make sure to follow us on Twitter at @RedHatStorage.

Not attending KubeCon? No sweat! You can still learn more and get hands on with a more intimate understanding of how Red Hat OpenShift and OpenShift Container Storage work together with a test drive.

Still want to learn more? Check out the Red Hat OpenShift Container Storage datasheet.

Red Hat Hyperconverged Infrastructure for Virtualization delivers increased efficiencies for storage and compute at the edge

Customers can realize more value and greater simplicity with cost-effective, open source, integrated compute and storage delivered in a compact footprint

By Daniel Gilfix, Red Hat Cloud Storage and Hyperconverged Infrastructure

Hyperconverged Infrastructure (HCI) emerged as an infrastructure category about a decade ago aimed at a few specific use cases and has been dominated by proprietary software vendors offering appliances built on their hardware, or rigid configurations delivered with OEM hardware partners.

What’s new?

Today we announced the next iteration of our enterprise-grade, open source approach in this spaceRed Hat Hyperconverged Infrastructure for Virtualization 1.5, which benefits from the combined strength of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Red Hat Virtualization, Red Hat Gluster Storage, and Red Hat Ansible Automation.

Where’s the beef?

Red Hat Hyperconverged Infrastructure for Virtualization (RHHI-V) is an optimized, hyperconverged infrastructure (HCI) that has helped organizations across industries like energy, retail, banking, telco, and the public sector make the most of business-critical applications that must be deployed with limited space, budget, and IT staff, including departmental and lines of business ops, remote sites, and development and test environments. Integration with Red Hat Ansible Automation helps reduce manual errors normally associated with downtime while enabling a more streamlined and speedy deployment. Simplified administration via a single user interface means you can consolidate your infrastructure and adopt a software-defined datacenter more efficiently. Such adoption includes using RHHI-V in lieu of a more expensive VMware “lock-in” environment or transitioning from it under professional guidance with the Red Hat infrastructure migration solution.

What’s inside?

Red Hat Hyperconverged Infrastructure for Virtualization 1.5 now features advanced data reduction capabilities for even greater efficiencies as well as a series of validated server configurations for optimized workloads to reduce or eliminate the guesswork out of infrastructure deployment. Details follow:

  • Data reduction via deduplication and compression. Made possible through embedded Virtual Data Optimizer (VDO) code in Red Hat Enterprise Linux, you can now efficiently eliminate duplicate instances of repeating data and compress the reduced data set. This results in improved storage utilization and enables more affordable high-performance storage options.
  • Virtual graphics processing unit (vGPU). With the vGPU capability, you can assign GPU slices to VMs to accelerate 3D graphics and to offload computationally heavy jobs, including applications in computational science, workloads in oil and gas and manufacturing, as well as emerging AI and machine learning applications processing.
  • Open Virtual Network support. Support for software-defined networking via Open Virtual Network (OVN) helps improve scalability while enabling live migration of virtual networking components in a hyperconverged Linux environment.
  • Deep Ansible integration. Red Hat Ansible Automation enables true “ops value” at deploy and runtime, thereby paving the way toward your broader automation goals. We also deliver Ansible playbooks to enable remote replication and recovery of RHHI-V environments.
  • Validated hardware configurations. To help ensure RHHI-V users deploy sound infrastructure configurations, Red Hat has tested a number of use cases with our hardware partners and documents configuration guidelines for optimized workloads. These configurations, along with our new RHHI-V sizing tool, can help you anticipate platform requirements based on their usage patterns, taking the guesswork out of deploying a software-defined HCI platform, and reducing time to value. You can choose among industry standard hardware and enjoy more predictable performance for their desired deployment patterns.

Who benefits?

While RHHI-V was initially targeted at remote office/branch office deployment, we’ve experienced steadily increasing demand to support more mission-critical applications, such as remote tactical operations for public sector, field analysis and oil rig operations in the energy sector, and managing data from a myriad of sensors in factories across both process and discrete manufacturing. Now integrated even more broadly across the Red Hat software stack, RHHI-V is a powerful, general purpose platform for anyone seeking to jumpstart edge computing or modernize their existing data center to accommodate new workloads with greater degrees of efficiency. 

How can you learn more?

For more information on Red Hat Hyperconverged Infrastructure for Virtualization, check out this article by Storage Switzerland. Feel free to also attend our upcoming webinar on December 11. You can always simply access us on the web.